3D mock up of the book cover for The Books of Jacob by Olga Tokarczuk
In conversationUpcoming

The psychologist's ear: other people's logic

with Olga Tokarczuk, Novelist, Nobel laureate

Date
Wed, May 27, 2026
Time
local
Venue
Nordic House, Oslo, NO

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What happens in the room

What clinical training leaves in a novelist: standing inside someone's reasoning long enough to describe it without mockery.

How it went

A quiet, technical evening, the most requested transcript we've ever put out. Sixteen minutes of it are in episode 122.

About Olga Tokarczuk

  • Nobel Prize in Literature, 2018
  • International Booker Prize, 2018
  • Nike Award (twice)

A trained psychologist from Sulechów, Poland, Tokarczuk writes what she calls the 'constellation novel', books built from fragments the reader assembles. Her work has been fiercely debated at home and celebrated abroad, and her Nobel citation praised an imagination that 'represents the crossing of boundaries as a form of life'.

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Date
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Time
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Venue
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