Behind the Book — Episode 123
Sixteen Years of Waiting: Colson Whitehead on Getting Good Enough
Nora Ellis in conversation with Colson Whitehead
Recorded July 29, 2026 · 01:45
https://behindthebookfm.com/episodes/the-underground-railroad

This interview is a voiced dramatisation written by our team, drawn from the
author's publicly documented remarks on craft.

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[00:00] Nora Ellis:
You had the idea for The Underground Railroad sixteen years before you wrote it. Why the wait?

[00:07] Colson Whitehead:
I didn't think I was good enough yet, and I was right. The premise — a literal railroad — needed a writer who could handle real brutality without flinching or wallowing, and at thirty I would have made it clever. Clever would have been an insult to the material. So I wrote other books and got older and finally ran out of excuses.

[00:28] Nora Ellis:
How do you research something that painful and stay functional?

[00:33] Colson Whitehead:
Slave narratives, in the mornings, with a time limit. I read the primary accounts because the language in them is more exact than anything I'd invent. Then I stopped at lunch and did something stupid and human, like watching bad television. You can't live in it. You visit, take notes, and come home.

[00:52] Nora Ellis:
Each state in the novel works like a different genre. Was that structural from the start?

[00:58] Colson Whitehead:
Yes — that was the map I made before drafting. Each state is a different America and therefore a different kind of storytelling: horror here, satire there, a false utopia. It let me write about how the country changes its costume without changing its intentions.

[01:16] Nora Ellis:
Why do you write?

[01:18] Colson Whitehead:
To find out what I think, which I usually don't know until page two hundred. And to be useful to the fourteen-year-old version of me who was looking for a book with people like him in it and couldn't find one on the shelf.

[01:31] Nora Ellis:
One thing you'd tell a writer who's afraid of a big subject?

[01:35] Colson Whitehead:
Wait if you must, but don't wait for permission. Wait until you have the craft, then go in and don't look away.